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From changing its name to losing 'Doctor Who': Syfy's biggest mistakes
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TMC
2011-09-02 08:08:52 UTC
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1. Canceling Stargate Atlantis.
Stargate Atlantis ran concurrently with Stargate: SG-1 for its first
three years. So there was plenty of precedent for running two Stargate
shows concurrently. And Stargate Atlantis was still scoring pretty
solid ratings when Syfy decided to pull the plug on it and launch
Stargate Universe instead. Continuing Stargate Atlantis after the
launch of Stargate Universe might have kept fans of a lighter Stargate
happy, as well as signaling that the Stargate franchise was merely
growing, not changing direction. Thanks for this idea, Tom!

2. Making Flash Gordon non-space-bound.
This one still makes us scratch our heads. You get to do the rights of
one of space opera's most recognizable characters, who's famous for
flying around on rockets and battling against aliens in space — and
you never put him on a spaceship. Syfy's Flash Gordon reboot involved
Flash stepping through a portal to another world, Mongo, which managed
to be simultaneously ultra-campy and kind of dull. (We nicknamed the
show's villain Ming the Middle-Manager, for his aura of seeming fussy
and dyspeptic, rather than actually bad-ass.) They ditched the cool
part of Flash — the space adventure — in favor of all of the campy,
dated stuff.

3. Abandoning Friday nights as an action-adventure bloc.
Would Battlestar Galactica have maintained its rock-solid ratings if
Syfy had moved it to Tuesdays or Mondays — or would it have suffered
the same fate as Caprica and Stargate Universe? We'll never know. But
BSG had been steady on Friday nights since the beginning of its second
season. In fact, Friday night had become a reliable home for Syfy's
more action-oriented shows, and lately only Haven appears there,
alongside wrestling. (Which might do just as well on another night.)

4. Marcel's Quantum Kitchen
When word first leaked that Syfy was doing a cooking show, we mocked.
It seemed to be pushing Syfy's identity a little too far away from
science fiction — and outside their core competency. And indeed,
Marcel's Quantum Kitchen was a pretty dismal failure, winning just
330,000 viewers for its final episode. (Even if it is cheap to make.)
Syfy has carved out a niche in spooky reality TV like Ghost Hunters
and Destination Truth — shows that I personally will never watch — and
Marcel's Quantum Kitchen was just a few steps too far.

5. Making Caprica a Battlestar prequel instead of a standalone show
Producer Remi Aubuchon came to Universal with a pitch for a new show
about artificial intelligence, robots and the creation of life. And
the studio and/or Syfy encouraged Aubuchon to collaborate with Ronald
D. Moore and David Eick, to turn his idea into a Battlestar Galactica
prequel — instead of launching it as a new venture. In retrospect,
that was clearly a mistake. Everything that was great about Caprica
could have been great as a new show, but the show felt weighed down by
the need to connect up with what we already knew would happen later.
The show was caught in a chokehold of existing mythology from the
first episode — and it was clearly bursting with new ideas that we'd
have loved to see develop further.

6. Not picking up Firefly
Okay, so this one might have an element of wishful thinking. But
around the time that Firefly was getting axed by Fox, there was plenty
of clamor for the Sci-Fi Channel to make a bid to continue Joss
Whedon's masterpiece. There were certainly reports at the time that,
as a 2003 article from the Deseret News puts it, "Firefly was shopped
to other outlets (including the Sci-Fi Channel) but nobody bought it."
Maybe this was never a serious possibility. Maybe it was impossible,
for economic reasons. But the Sci-Fi Channel had picked up Stargate:
SG-1 from Showtime not long earlier.

7. Letting Doctor Who get away.
When Doctor Who came back to life in 2005, Syfy seemed to have mixed
feelings about it. Everybody expected Syfy to pick up the new show,
since after all the channel had launched with classic Doctor Who
repeats in heavy rotation — but Syfy dragged its feet for months, not
airing the Christopher Eccleston episodes until March 2006. The
channel frequently aired Doctor Who in first run with deep cuts to
episodes, and never seemed to have much urgency to air them soon after
their British airings. Finally, Syfy let the show go off to BBC
America, which has propelled it to new ratings heights by treating it
as a major event.

8. Not owning space opera
In the past decade, space opera on television has gone from half a
dozen shows to... none. The 2011 fall TV season in the U.S. won't
include any shows set in space or on a spaceship, on any channel. This
presents a huge opportunity to Syfy, to be the channel that gives you
what you can't get anywhere else. and here's where we mention Syfy's
mistake in cancelling Farscape, as well as the aforementioned mistakes
with Stargate Atlantis and keeping Flash Gordon grounded. Syfy can
reach out to a larger audience that doesn't want to see shows about
starships and pew-pew-pew — and still nurture the audience that seeks
those things out. Those are not contradictory goals.

9. The name change
Actually, this one is still up in the air, because Syfy's strategy
still hasn't played out. Part of the rationale behind creating a new
brand name was the ability to brand new associated Syfy ventures,
including Syfy Kids, Syfy Films and Syfy Games. So far, these ventures
appear to have generated very little heat — but it's early yet. Syfy
Films is supposed to have its first theatrical release in 2012 —
although shouldn't that already be in production at this point? In
other ways, though, we can judge the name change a failure. According
to Proud Creative (PDF), which worked on the brand campaign, the goal
was "retaining the positive associations from the genre of science
fiction, whilst appealing to a broader audience and embracing the
benefits of imagination." And the marketing campaign for Caprica, for
example, seemed to emphasize its appeal to that broader audience,
without much noticeable success. Also, as Wired's GeekDad blog pointed
out recently, Syfy's Mark Stern told io9 in 2009 that the name change
would allow Syfy to greenlight more hard science fiction, because
"hard scifi on the Sci-Fi Channel is almost like this double whammy.
Now that we have a brand that is a little broader ... it also gives us
a lot of freedom to do more hard scifi." (In the same interview, Stern
said the channel was looking at launching a new space opera in 2010 or
2011 — we're still waiting!) So if one goal of the name change was to
free up Syfy to do more hard science fiction, then it clearly hasn't
worked.

10. Canceling Eureka
And finally... this is what started us thinking about this topic.
Eureka wrapped production on its final ever episode yesterday. And
this still seems really arbitrary, for a show that was still going
strong after four seasons. It would be one thing if Eureka was pulling
in Stargate Universe numbers, but it's not. The most recent episode
drew 2.1 million viewers, compared with 2.3 million for Warehouse 13
and just 1.8 million for Alphas. As Geek Dad points out, this follows
a legacy of canceling Farscape and Dresden Files, both of which were
still enjoying decent ratings.
Zeb Carter
2011-09-02 14:49:17 UTC
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Post by TMC
http://io9.com/5836461/10-actual-mistakes-that-syfy-has-made-over-the-years
1. Canceling Stargate Atlantis.
Stargate Atlantis ran concurrently with Stargate: SG-1 for its first
three years. So there was plenty of precedent for running two Stargate
shows concurrently. And Stargate Atlantis was still scoring pretty
solid ratings when Syfy decided to pull the plug on it and launch
Stargate Universe instead. Continuing Stargate Atlantis after the
launch of Stargate Universe might have kept fans of a lighter Stargate
happy, as well as signaling that the Stargate franchise was merely
growing, not changing direction. Thanks for this idea, Tom!
I enjoyed SGU for its darker tone. Sure, it was BSGesque in its approach
with the personality conflicts among the different crew memembers but it
worked.

I would have liked to have seen a resolution to the last storyline in
SGA and seeing Atlantis get back to the Pegasus Galaxy. But that's what
direct to DVD movie are for - at least that worked for SG1. So where's
our SGA and SGU movies?

On a side note, David Blue "Eli" & Louis Ferreira "Young" & Julie
McNiven "Gynn" & Patrick Gilmore "Dr Volker" are at Dragon Con this
weekend. Maybe some info will come from them from behind the scenes.
Post by TMC
2. Making Flash Gordon non-space-bound.
This one still makes us scratch our heads. You get to do the rights of
one of space opera's most recognizable characters, who's famous for
flying around on rockets and battling against aliens in space — and
you never put him on a spaceship. Syfy's Flash Gordon reboot involved
Flash stepping through a portal to another world, Mongo, which managed
to be simultaneously ultra-campy and kind of dull. (We nicknamed the
show's villain Ming the Middle-Manager, for his aura of seeming fussy
and dyspeptic, rather than actually bad-ass.) They ditched the cool
part of Flash — the space adventure — in favor of all of the campy,
dated stuff.
Not enough space ships or futuristic weapons. And the show was all about
who controlled the water????
Post by TMC
3. Abandoning Friday nights as an action-adventure bloc.
Would Battlestar Galactica have maintained its rock-solid ratings if
Syfy had moved it to Tuesdays or Mondays — or would it have suffered
the same fate as Caprica and Stargate Universe? We'll never know. But
BSG had been steady on Friday nights since the beginning of its second
season. In fact, Friday night had become a reliable home for Syfy's
more action-oriented shows, and lately only Haven appears there,
alongside wrestling. (Which might do just as well on another night.)
After SyFy gutted the lineup, what action shows? At least Monday nights
has somethings going for it. But once Monday night football hits, say
goodbye to ratings for what remains.
Post by TMC
4. Marcel's Quantum Kitchen
When word first leaked that Syfy was doing a cooking show, we mocked.
It seemed to be pushing Syfy's identity a little too far away from
science fiction — and outside their core competency. And indeed,
Marcel's Quantum Kitchen was a pretty dismal failure, winning just
330,000 viewers for its final episode. (Even if it is cheap to make.)
Syfy has carved out a niche in spooky reality TV like Ghost Hunters
and Destination Truth — shows that I personally will never watch — and
Marcel's Quantum Kitchen was just a few steps too far.
5. Making Caprica a Battlestar prequel instead of a standalone show
Producer Remi Aubuchon came to Universal with a pitch for a new show
about artificial intelligence, robots and the creation of life. And
the studio and/or Syfy encouraged Aubuchon to collaborate with Ronald
D. Moore and David Eick, to turn his idea into a Battlestar Galactica
prequel — instead of launching it as a new venture. In retrospect,
that was clearly a mistake. Everything that was great about Caprica
could have been great as a new show, but the show felt weighed down by
the need to connect up with what we already knew would happen later.
The show was caught in a chokehold of existing mythology from the
first episode — and it was clearly bursting with new ideas that we'd
have loved to see develop further.
Caprica was good in theory, highly flawed in execution. For me, the
beginning of Caprica should have been about 30 years further back. What
I saw of it, Going from holographic avatars to cybernetic bodies was
just too quick.
Post by TMC
6. Not picking up Firefly
Okay, so this one might have an element of wishful thinking. But
around the time that Firefly was getting axed by Fox, there was plenty
of clamor for the Sci-Fi Channel to make a bid to continue Joss
Whedon's masterpiece. There were certainly reports at the time that,
as a 2003 article from the Deseret News puts it, "Firefly was shopped
to other outlets (including the Sci-Fi Channel) but nobody bought it."
Maybe this was never a serious possibility. Maybe it was impossible,
SG-1 from Showtime not long earlier.
Consider the history of the end of Farscape and the creation of new SG-1
episodes from the standpoint of Harry Potter and Voldemort - " ...either
must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other
survives...".
Post by TMC
7. Letting Doctor Who get away.
When Doctor Who came back to life in 2005, Syfy seemed to have mixed
feelings about it. Everybody expected Syfy to pick up the new show,
since after all the channel had launched with classic Doctor Who
repeats in heavy rotation — but Syfy dragged its feet for months, not
airing the Christopher Eccleston episodes until March 2006. The
channel frequently aired Doctor Who in first run with deep cuts to
episodes, and never seemed to have much urgency to air them soon after
their British airings. Finally, Syfy let the show go off to BBC
America, which has propelled it to new ratings heights by treating it
as a major event.
Sci Fi Channel had the rights to so many classic shows. It was their
signature.
Post by TMC
8. Not owning space opera
In the past decade, space opera on television has gone from half a
dozen shows to... none. The 2011 fall TV season in the U.S. won't
include any shows set in space or on a spaceship, on any channel. This
presents a huge opportunity to Syfy, to be the channel that gives you
what you can't get anywhere else. and here's where we mention Syfy's
mistake in cancelling Farscape, as well as the aforementioned mistakes
with Stargate Atlantis and keeping Flash Gordon grounded. Syfy can
reach out to a larger audience that doesn't want to see shows about
starships and pew-pew-pew — and still nurture the audience that seeks
those things out. Those are not contradictory goals.
9. The name change
Actually, this one is still up in the air, because Syfy's strategy
still hasn't played out. Part of the rationale behind creating a new
brand name was the ability to brand new associated Syfy ventures,
including Syfy Kids, Syfy Films and Syfy Games. So far, these ventures
appear to have generated very little heat — but it's early yet. Syfy
Films is supposed to have its first theatrical release in 2012 —
although shouldn't that already be in production at this point? In
other ways, though, we can judge the name change a failure. According
to Proud Creative (PDF), which worked on the brand campaign, the goal
was "retaining the positive associations from the genre of science
fiction, whilst appealing to a broader audience and embracing the
benefits of imagination." And the marketing campaign for Caprica, for
example, seemed to emphasize its appeal to that broader audience,
without much noticeable success. Also, as Wired's GeekDad blog pointed
out recently, Syfy's Mark Stern told io9 in 2009 that the name change
would allow Syfy to greenlight more hard science fiction, because
"hard scifi on the Sci-Fi Channel is almost like this double whammy.
Now that we have a brand that is a little broader ... it also gives us
a lot of freedom to do more hard scifi." (In the same interview, Stern
said the channel was looking at launching a new space opera in 2010 or
2011 — we're still waiting!) So if one goal of the name change was to
free up Syfy to do more hard science fiction, then it clearly hasn't
worked.
10. Canceling Eureka
And finally... this is what started us thinking about this topic.
Eureka wrapped production on its final ever episode yesterday. And
this still seems really arbitrary, for a show that was still going
strong after four seasons. It would be one thing if Eureka was pulling
in Stargate Universe numbers, but it's not. The most recent episode
drew 2.1 million viewers, compared with 2.3 million for Warehouse 13
and just 1.8 million for Alphas. As Geek Dad points out, this follows
a legacy of canceling Farscape and Dresden Files, both of which were
still enjoying decent ratings.
Now that Eureka and Warehouse 13 have been shown to be in the same
universe (at least post new timeline in Eureka), maybe we'll see more
guest appearances of the E-crew on WH-13 ala Fargo.

For me, the bottom line of when all this started happening was when
Bonnie Hammer and others under her started taking things apart and
ordering "reality" shows. Now that Comcast has bought NBC/SyFy/USA,
maybe the fans need to appeal to the Comcast board of directors and send
a copy of this article to each and every one of the members of the board.
Arthur Lipscomb
2011-09-02 19:14:48 UTC
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Post by Zeb Carter
Post by TMC
http://io9.com/5836461/10-actual-mistakes-that-syfy-has-made-over-the-years
1. Canceling Stargate Atlantis.
Stargate Atlantis ran concurrently with Stargate: SG-1 for its first
three years. So there was plenty of precedent for running two Stargate
shows concurrently. And Stargate Atlantis was still scoring pretty
solid ratings when Syfy decided to pull the plug on it and launch
Stargate Universe instead. Continuing Stargate Atlantis after the
launch of Stargate Universe might have kept fans of a lighter Stargate
happy, as well as signaling that the Stargate franchise was merely
growing, not changing direction. Thanks for this idea, Tom!
I enjoyed SGU for its darker tone. Sure, it was BSGesque in its approach
with the personality conflicts among the different crew memembers but it
worked.
Agreed. But the overall quality seemed to fluctuate wildly at times.
Post by Zeb Carter
I would have liked to have seen a resolution to the last storyline in
SGA and seeing Atlantis get back to the Pegasus Galaxy. But that's what
direct to DVD movie are for - at least that worked for SG1. So where's
our SGA and SGU movies?
On a side note, David Blue "Eli" & Louis Ferreira "Young" & Julie
McNiven "Gynn" & Patrick Gilmore "Dr Volker" are at Dragon Con this
weekend. Maybe some info will come from them from behind the scenes.
Post by TMC
2. Making Flash Gordon non-space-bound.
This one still makes us scratch our heads. You get to do the rights of
one of space opera's most recognizable characters, who's famous for
flying around on rockets and battling against aliens in space — and
you never put him on a spaceship. Syfy's Flash Gordon reboot involved
Flash stepping through a portal to another world, Mongo, which managed
to be simultaneously ultra-campy and kind of dull. (We nicknamed the
show's villain Ming the Middle-Manager, for his aura of seeming fussy
and dyspeptic, rather than actually bad-ass.) They ditched the cool
part of Flash — the space adventure — in favor of all of the campy,
dated stuff.
Not enough space ships or futuristic weapons. And the show was all about
who controlled the water????
Don't forget the featherless Hawkmen.
catpandaddy
2011-09-02 20:14:52 UTC
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Post by Zeb Carter
Post by TMC
http://io9.com/5836461/10-actual-mistakes-that-syfy-has-made-over-the-years
1. Canceling Stargate Atlantis.
Stargate Atlantis ran concurrently with Stargate: SG-1 for its first
three years. So there was plenty of precedent for running two Stargate
shows concurrently. And Stargate Atlantis was still scoring pretty
solid ratings when Syfy decided to pull the plug on it and launch
Stargate Universe instead. Continuing Stargate Atlantis after the
launch of Stargate Universe might have kept fans of a lighter Stargate
happy, as well as signaling that the Stargate franchise was merely
growing, not changing direction. Thanks for this idea, Tom!
I enjoyed SGU for its darker tone. Sure, it was BSGesque in its approach
with the personality conflicts among the different crew memembers but it
worked.
I would have liked to have seen a resolution to the last storyline in SGA
and seeing Atlantis get back to the Pegasus Galaxy. But that's what direct
to DVD movie are for - at least that worked for SG1. So where's our SGA
and SGU movies?
On a side note, David Blue "Eli" & Louis Ferreira "Young" & Julie McNiven
"Gynn" & Patrick Gilmore "Dr Volker" are at Dragon Con this weekend. Maybe
some info will come from them from behind the scenes.
Post by TMC
2. Making Flash Gordon non-space-bound.
This one still makes us scratch our heads. You get to do the rights of
one of space opera's most recognizable characters, who's famous for
flying around on rockets and battling against aliens in space — and
you never put him on a spaceship. Syfy's Flash Gordon reboot involved
Flash stepping through a portal to another world, Mongo, which managed
to be simultaneously ultra-campy and kind of dull. (We nicknamed the
show's villain Ming the Middle-Manager, for his aura of seeming fussy
and dyspeptic, rather than actually bad-ass.) They ditched the cool
part of Flash — the space adventure — in favor of all of the campy,
dated stuff.
Not enough space ships or futuristic weapons. And the show was all about
who controlled the water????
Post by TMC
3. Abandoning Friday nights as an action-adventure bloc.
Would Battlestar Galactica have maintained its rock-solid ratings if
Syfy had moved it to Tuesdays or Mondays — or would it have suffered
the same fate as Caprica and Stargate Universe? We'll never know. But
BSG had been steady on Friday nights since the beginning of its second
season. In fact, Friday night had become a reliable home for Syfy's
more action-oriented shows, and lately only Haven appears there,
alongside wrestling. (Which might do just as well on another night.)
After SyFy gutted the lineup, what action shows? At least Monday nights
has somethings going for it. But once Monday night football hits, say
goodbye to ratings for what remains.
Post by TMC
4. Marcel's Quantum Kitchen
When word first leaked that Syfy was doing a cooking show, we mocked.
It seemed to be pushing Syfy's identity a little too far away from
science fiction — and outside their core competency. And indeed,
Marcel's Quantum Kitchen was a pretty dismal failure, winning just
330,000 viewers for its final episode. (Even if it is cheap to make.)
Syfy has carved out a niche in spooky reality TV like Ghost Hunters
and Destination Truth — shows that I personally will never watch — and
Marcel's Quantum Kitchen was just a few steps too far.
5. Making Caprica a Battlestar prequel instead of a standalone show
Producer Remi Aubuchon came to Universal with a pitch for a new show
about artificial intelligence, robots and the creation of life. And
the studio and/or Syfy encouraged Aubuchon to collaborate with Ronald
D. Moore and David Eick, to turn his idea into a Battlestar Galactica
prequel — instead of launching it as a new venture. In retrospect,
that was clearly a mistake. Everything that was great about Caprica
could have been great as a new show, but the show felt weighed down by
the need to connect up with what we already knew would happen later.
The show was caught in a chokehold of existing mythology from the
first episode — and it was clearly bursting with new ideas that we'd
have loved to see develop further.
Caprica was good in theory, highly flawed in execution. For me, the
beginning of Caprica should have been about 30 years further back. What I
saw of it, Going from holographic avatars to cybernetic bodies was just
too quick.
Post by TMC
6. Not picking up Firefly
Okay, so this one might have an element of wishful thinking. But
around the time that Firefly was getting axed by Fox, there was plenty
of clamor for the Sci-Fi Channel to make a bid to continue Joss
Whedon's masterpiece. There were certainly reports at the time that,
as a 2003 article from the Deseret News puts it, "Firefly was shopped
to other outlets (including the Sci-Fi Channel) but nobody bought it."
Maybe this was never a serious possibility. Maybe it was impossible,
SG-1 from Showtime not long earlier.
Consider the history of the end of Farscape and the creation of new SG-1
episodes from the standpoint of Harry Potter and Voldemort - " ...either
must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other
survives...".
Post by TMC
7. Letting Doctor Who get away.
When Doctor Who came back to life in 2005, Syfy seemed to have mixed
feelings about it. Everybody expected Syfy to pick up the new show,
since after all the channel had launched with classic Doctor Who
repeats in heavy rotation — but Syfy dragged its feet for months, not
airing the Christopher Eccleston episodes until March 2006. The
channel frequently aired Doctor Who in first run with deep cuts to
episodes, and never seemed to have much urgency to air them soon after
their British airings. Finally, Syfy let the show go off to BBC
America, which has propelled it to new ratings heights by treating it
as a major event.
Sci Fi Channel had the rights to so many classic shows. It was their
signature.
Post by TMC
8. Not owning space opera
In the past decade, space opera on television has gone from half a
dozen shows to... none. The 2011 fall TV season in the U.S. won't
include any shows set in space or on a spaceship, on any channel. This
presents a huge opportunity to Syfy, to be the channel that gives you
what you can't get anywhere else. and here's where we mention Syfy's
mistake in cancelling Farscape, as well as the aforementioned mistakes
with Stargate Atlantis and keeping Flash Gordon grounded. Syfy can
reach out to a larger audience that doesn't want to see shows about
starships and pew-pew-pew — and still nurture the audience that seeks
those things out. Those are not contradictory goals.
9. The name change
Actually, this one is still up in the air, because Syfy's strategy
still hasn't played out. Part of the rationale behind creating a new
brand name was the ability to brand new associated Syfy ventures,
including Syfy Kids, Syfy Films and Syfy Games. So far, these ventures
appear to have generated very little heat — but it's early yet. Syfy
Films is supposed to have its first theatrical release in 2012 —
although shouldn't that already be in production at this point? In
other ways, though, we can judge the name change a failure. According
to Proud Creative (PDF), which worked on the brand campaign, the goal
was "retaining the positive associations from the genre of science
fiction, whilst appealing to a broader audience and embracing the
benefits of imagination." And the marketing campaign for Caprica, for
example, seemed to emphasize its appeal to that broader audience,
without much noticeable success. Also, as Wired's GeekDad blog pointed
out recently, Syfy's Mark Stern told io9 in 2009 that the name change
would allow Syfy to greenlight more hard science fiction, because
"hard scifi on the Sci-Fi Channel is almost like this double whammy.
Now that we have a brand that is a little broader ... it also gives us
a lot of freedom to do more hard scifi." (In the same interview, Stern
said the channel was looking at launching a new space opera in 2010 or
2011 — we're still waiting!) So if one goal of the name change was to
free up Syfy to do more hard science fiction, then it clearly hasn't
worked.
10. Canceling Eureka
And finally... this is what started us thinking about this topic.
Eureka wrapped production on its final ever episode yesterday. And
this still seems really arbitrary, for a show that was still going
strong after four seasons. It would be one thing if Eureka was pulling
in Stargate Universe numbers, but it's not. The most recent episode
drew 2.1 million viewers, compared with 2.3 million for Warehouse 13
and just 1.8 million for Alphas. As Geek Dad points out, this follows
a legacy of canceling Farscape and Dresden Files, both of which were
still enjoying decent ratings.
Now that Eureka and Warehouse 13 have been shown to be in the same
universe (at least post new timeline in Eureka), maybe we'll see more
guest appearances of the E-crew on WH-13 ala Fargo.
For me, the bottom line of when all this started happening was when Bonnie
Hammer and others under her started taking things apart and ordering
"reality" shows. Now that Comcast has bought NBC/SyFy/USA, maybe the fans
need to appeal to the Comcast board of directors and send a copy of this
article to each and every one of the members of the board.
Comcast can't even fix the episode synopsis problems in their onscreen
schedule. They have the entire first series of Matt Smith and Karen
Gillan's starring roles in "Dr Who" billed as "Matt Smith and Billie
Piper" -- they have never appeared together. And there are shows on other
stations where they have some permanent mixups... airing an episode from
Season 1 and displaying the title and synopsis for a completely different
episode in Season 7 for example.
Duggy
2011-09-02 22:34:30 UTC
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Post by Zeb Carter
I would have liked to have seen a resolution to the last storyline in
SGA and seeing Atlantis get back to the Pegasus Galaxy. But that's what
direct to DVD movie are for - at least that worked for SG1. So where's
our SGA and SGU movies?
The failure of SGU lead to the cancellation of SGA movie plans.

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= DUG.
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Zeb Carter
2011-09-02 22:58:46 UTC
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Post by Duggy
Post by Zeb Carter
I would have liked to have seen a resolution to the last storyline in
SGA and seeing Atlantis get back to the Pegasus Galaxy. But that's what
direct to DVD movie are for - at least that worked for SG1. So where's
our SGA and SGU movies?
The failure of SGU lead to the cancellation of SGA movie plans.
===
= DUG.
===
I'm afraid you're right Duggy. But I would love to see some sales
figures for the 2 SG-1 direct to DVD movies. And maybe sales figures for
the DVD sets for the 3 shows.

On another note, has anyone had problems finding the complete first
season of SGU? The local Best buy and FYE haven't had them in stock. My
wife got SGU:S2 but couldn't find SGU:S1.
Duggy
2011-09-03 03:12:25 UTC
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Post by Zeb Carter
I'm afraid you're right Duggy. But I would love to see some sales
figures for the 2 SG-1 direct to DVD movies. And maybe sales figures for
the DVD sets for the 3 shows.
With an ongoing TV show you have sets and production crews in place.
Not the exact sets, but you know what I mean. It's cheaper to do an
SG movie while you're doing different SG series. So sales figures for
SG-1 DVD may have been good enough for while SG-A was in production.
It may not be worth making one now.

===
= DUG.
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Dillon Pyron
2011-10-07 02:31:42 UTC
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Post by TMC
http://io9.com/5836461/10-actual-mistakes-that-syfy-has-made-over-the-years
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Post by Zeb Carter
For me, the bottom line of when all this started happening was when
Bonnie Hammer and others under her started taking things apart and
ordering "reality" shows. Now that Comcast has bought NBC/SyFy/USA,
maybe the fans need to appeal to the Comcast board of directors and send
a copy of this article to each and every one of the members of the board.
If you think Uni-NBC was cheap, wait until Comcast starts really doing
budgets. Then you'll see two pennies fused into one.
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- dillon I am not invalid

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