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Shame there was no Caprica Season 2.
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J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
2013-04-23 08:12:06 UTC
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The teaser for season 2 looked very interesting. how much did they
actally film?
i think Dynamite should do a Caprica Season 2 comic and have it be
canon.
They have done some interesting stuff with classic BSG and even a
'reimagined'
BSG '80!
If no comics then prose novels based on whatever plans they had for
season 2.
if hatch could get away with his erratic classic BSG novels 25 years
after the original, then i am SURE there are enough devoted fans who
could do some kick ass NEW BSG material.
Your Name
2013-04-23 20:54:44 UTC
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Post by J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
The teaser for season 2 looked very interesting. how much did they
actally film?
i think Dynamite should do a Caprica Season 2 comic and have it be
canon.
They have done some interesting stuff with classic BSG and even a
'reimagined'
BSG '80!
If no comics then prose novels based on whatever plans they had for
season 2.
if hatch could get away with his erratic classic BSG novels 25 years
after the original, then i am SURE there are enough devoted fans who
could do some kick ass NEW BSG material.
Since you aren't cross-posting (for a change), you get an answer ...

There are already novels for Ron Moore's so-called "Battlestar Galactica",
but I have absolutely zero interest in his garbagised version, so I have
no idea whether they're new stories or just novelisations of the TV
episodes.

Richard Hatch's novels were part of his plans to get his proper revival of
the real "Battlestar Galactica" made.
J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
2013-05-01 21:09:19 UTC
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There are already novels for Ron Moore's so-called "Battlestar
Galactica", but I have absolutely zero interest in his garbagised
version, so I have no idea whether they're new stories or just
novelisations of the TV episodes.
Richard Hatch's novels were part of his plans to get his proper revival
of the real "Battlestar Galactica" made.

I have read all but the last of Hatch's novels and found them meandering
and inconsistent, owing to the plethora of ghost writers he had writing
them.
I admire his dogged persistance in trying to keep the classic BSG up and
running, but his novels didnt really help the cause.
It is ironic that the character he played on the 'garbagized' BSG, Tom
Zarek, ended up being shot for treason by a firing squad headed by his
'dad', Commander [by then Admiral] Adama.
Your Name
2013-05-02 04:14:46 UTC
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There are already novels for Ron Moore's so-called "Battlestar
Galactica", but I have absolutely zero interest in his garbagised
version, so I have no idea whether they're new stories or just
novelisations of the TV episodes.
Richard Hatch's novels were part of his plans to get his proper revival
of the real "Battlestar Galactica" made.
I have read all but the last of Hatch's novels and found them meandering
and inconsistent, owing to the plethora of ghost writers he had writing
them.
I admire his dogged persistance in trying to keep the classic BSG up and
running, but his novels didnt really help the cause.
It is ironic that the character he played on the 'garbagized' BSG, Tom
Zarek, ended up being shot for treason by a firing squad headed by his
'dad', Commander [by then Admiral] Adama.
Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".

There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to ressurect
their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original "Blake's 7"
(no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an Americanisation, so
that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David Hasselhoff with Knight
Rider.
J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
2013-05-02 04:49:28 UTC
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Group: alt.battlestar-galactica Date: Thu, May 2, 2013, 4:14pm (EDT+16)
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Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to
ressurect their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original
"Blake's 7" (no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an
Americanisation, so that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David
Hasselhoff with Knight Rider.

I remember seeing the amerization of Red Dwarf on one of the DVD's.
absolutely horrific.

ROBBY THE GEODUCK LIVES!
Your Name
2013-05-02 06:29:08 UTC
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Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to
ressurect their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original
"Blake's 7" (no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an
Americanisation, so that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David
Hasselhoff with Knight Rider.
I remember seeing the amerization of Red Dwarf on one of the DVD's.
absolutely horrific.
Most Americanisation of British shows are awful - "Red Dwarf", "Doctor
Who", and "Torchwood" are just recent examples. Even the American version
of Sherlock is pitiful compared to the British one.

The Americanised version of "Fawlty Towers" isn't even recognisable, but
at least they did change the name to "Cheers".



Your newsreader software needs it's preferences / settings fixed - it's
not prefixing quoted material in your replies with anything, which makes
it difficult to se what you've typed from what you're replying to.
RT
2013-05-06 03:15:00 UTC
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Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to
ressurect their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original
"Blake's 7" (no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an
Americanisation, so that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David
Hasselhoff with Knight Rider.
I remember seeing the amerization of Red Dwarf on one of the DVD's.
absolutely horrific.
Most Americanisation of British shows are awful - "Red Dwarf", "Doctor
Who", and "Torchwood" are just recent examples. Even the American version
of Sherlock is pitiful compared to the British one.
How are they Americanized? Two versions filmed? What?
Post by Your Name
The Americanised version of "Fawlty Towers" isn't even recognisable, but
at least they did change the name to "Cheers".
Are you insane? One is set at a HOTEL, the other a BAR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawlty_Towers
The popular sitcoms 3rd Rock from the Sun and Cheers (in both of which
Cleese has appeared) have cited Fawlty Towers as an inspiration,
especially regarding its depiction of a dysfunctional "family" in the
workplace. Also Arthur Mathews and Graham Linehan have cited Fawlty
Towers as a major influence on their sitcom Father Ted. Guest House on
Pakistan's PTV also resembled the series.
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Your newsreader software needs it's preferences / settings fixed - it's
not prefixing quoted material in your replies with anything, which makes
it difficult to se what you've typed from what you're replying to.
Your Name
2013-05-06 04:11:12 UTC
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Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to
ressurect their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original
"Blake's 7" (no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an
Americanisation, so that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David
Hasselhoff with Knight Rider.
I remember seeing the amerization of Red Dwarf on one of the DVD's.
absolutely horrific.
Most Americanisation of British shows are awful - "Red Dwarf", "Doctor
Who", and "Torchwood" are just recent examples. Even the American version
of Sherlock is pitiful compared to the British one.
How are they Americanized? Two versions filmed? What?
Usually the same problem they have when making silly reboots of anything:
lots of idiotic, ill-fitting changes and lots of flash, but no real
substance ... and absolutely no real understaning of the original.
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The Americanised version of "Fawlty Towers" isn't even recognisable, but
at least they did change the name to "Cheers".
Are you insane? One is set at a HOTEL, the other a BAR.
Don't blame me. I simply telling you what John Cleese said in a TV
interview. They apparently sold the rights for an American version of
Fawlty Towers, and the end result was Cheers.
RT
2013-05-30 16:40:17 UTC
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Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to
ressurect their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original
"Blake's 7" (no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an
Americanisation, so that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David
Hasselhoff with Knight Rider.
I remember seeing the amerization of Red Dwarf on one of the DVD's.
absolutely horrific.
Most Americanisation of British shows are awful - "Red Dwarf", "Doctor
Who", and "Torchwood" are just recent examples. Even the American version
of Sherlock is pitiful compared to the British one.
How are they Americanized? Two versions filmed? What?
lots of idiotic, ill-fitting changes and lots of flash, but no real
substance ... and absolutely no real understaning of the original.
Most Americanisation of British shows are awful - "Red Dwarf", "Doctor
Who", and "Torchwood" are just recent examples.

I repeat - how were these Americanized? Were two versions filmed?
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The Americanised version of "Fawlty Towers" isn't even recognisable, but
at least they did change the name to "Cheers".
Are you insane? One is set at a HOTEL, the other a BAR.
Don't blame me. I simply telling you what John Cleese said in a TV
interview. They apparently sold the rights for an American version of
Fawlty Towers, and the end result was Cheers.
Link then ->

RT
2013-05-06 03:05:21 UTC
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Post by J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
Group: alt.battlestar-galactica Date: Thu, May 2, 2013, 4:14pm (EDT+16)
Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to
ressurect their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original
"Blake's 7" (no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an
Americanisation, so that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David
Hasselhoff with Knight Rider.
I remember seeing the amerization of Red Dwarf on one of the DVD's.
absolutely horrific.
How was it Americanized?
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ROBBY THE GEODUCK LIVES!
RT
2013-05-06 03:04:19 UTC
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There are already novels for Ron Moore's so-called "Battlestar
Galactica", but I have absolutely zero interest in his garbagised
version, so I have no idea whether they're new stories or just
novelisations of the TV episodes.
Richard Hatch's novels were part of his plans to get his proper revival
of the real "Battlestar Galactica" made.
I have read all but the last of Hatch's novels and found them meandering
and inconsistent, owing to the plethora of ghost writers he had writing
them.
I admire his dogged persistance in trying to keep the classic BSG up and
running, but his novels didnt really help the cause.
It is ironic that the character he played on the 'garbagized' BSG, Tom
Zarek, ended up being shot for treason by a firing squad headed by his
'dad', Commander [by then Admiral] Adama.
Richard Hatch's problem is that he's simply not very talented, as an
actor, nor as a writer, nor as a director / producer. He's a one-bit
wonder who was lucky enough to be given the role of Apollo in the real
"Battlestar Galactica".
Co-starred with a robot doggie. There's a real resume enhancer.
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There are other simliar one-bit wonders who also keep trying to ressurect
their old shows - the actor who played Avon in the original "Blake's 7"
(no also undergoing a silly reboot, as well as an Americanisation, so
that'll be utter rubbish) and of course David Hasselhoff with Knight
Rider.
RT
2013-05-06 03:03:14 UTC
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There are already novels for Ron Moore's so-called "Battlestar
Galactica", but I have absolutely zero interest in his garbagised
version, so I have no idea whether they're new stories or just
novelisations of the TV episodes.
Richard Hatch's novels were part of his plans to get his proper revival
of the real "Battlestar Galactica" made.
I have read all but the last of Hatch's novels and found them meandering
and inconsistent, owing to the plethora of ghost writers he had writing
them.
I picked at random Warhawk years ago. It was ok, I guess. Donated it to
the local library.
Post by J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
I admire his dogged persistance in trying to keep the classic BSG up and
running, but his novels didnt really help the cause.
It is ironic that the character he played on the 'garbagized' BSG, Tom
Zarek, ended up being shot for treason by a firing squad headed by his
'dad', Commander [by then Admiral] Adama.
Actually it was quite smart of him to do it.
RT
2013-05-06 02:55:58 UTC
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Post by J.R.R. Bob Dobbs EPV
The teaser for season 2 looked very interesting. how much did they
actally film?
i think Dynamite should do a Caprica Season 2 comic and have it be
canon.
They have done some interesting stuff with classic BSG and even a
'reimagined'
BSG '80!
If no comics then prose novels based on whatever plans they had for
season 2.
if hatch could get away with his erratic classic BSG novels 25 years
after the original, then i am SURE there are enough devoted fans who
could do some kick ass NEW BSG material.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenna-busch/jane-espenson-on-game-of-_b_867257.html

Can you give us a hint about where Caprica would have gone? So many of us
were heartbroken when it was canceled. What did you learn from that
experience?

We had plans, but nothing had been absolutely committed to -- things like
that tend to change a lot even at the last-minute, so it's hard to remember
exactly what was nailed down. We were going to skip some time, go into some
war stories, and do some crossing over with at least one of the Final Five
cylons. Kevin Murphy gave a recent interview in which he laid out the plans
in a surprising amount of detail - he remembered much more than I did. We
were all trying so hard to make the "now" work, that I'm amazed we had
any time to think about "then."


that interview is here

http://www.capricatimes.com/the-caprica-times-exclusive-interview-kevin-murphy
jack
2013-05-07 14:20:19 UTC
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The teaser for season 2 looked very interesting. how much did they
actally film?
i think Dynamite should do a Caprica Season 2 comic and have it be
canon.
They have done some interesting stuff with classic BSG and even a
'reimagined'
BSG '80!
If no comics then prose novels based on whatever plans they had for
season 2.
if hatch could get away with his erratic classic BSG novels 25 years
after the original, then i am SURE there are enough devoted fans who
could do some kick ass NEW BSG material.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenna-busch/jane-espenson-on-game-of-_b_867257.html
Can you give us a hint about where Caprica would have gone? So many of us
were heartbroken when it was canceled. What did you learn from that
experience?
We had plans, but nothing had been absolutely committed to -- things like
that tend to change a lot even at the last-minute, so it's hard to remember
exactly what was nailed down. We were going to skip some time, go into some
war stories, and do some crossing over with at least one of the Final Five
cylons. Kevin Murphy gave a recent interview in which he laid out the plans
in a surprising amount of detail - he remembered much more than I did. We
were all trying so hard to make the "now" work, that I'm amazed we had
any time to think about "then."
that interview is here
http://www.capricatimes.com/the-caprica-times-exclusive-interview-kevin-murphy
Way too bad Syfy threw in the towel on Caprica so early on, especially considering the crap they show most nights. Was an adult-drama sci-fi series that hard to get a grasp on for so many people. Granted, the first season did spend too much time on the V-world kids, but we did get a plausible model of how the AI to cylon story would play out on Caprica. Was looking forward to first contact with the Caprica cylons with their older family members out in space. Folks prefer the BSG-for-12-years-old version of the story, fine, wear out the DVDs watching it, but if you don't like the newer version, don't watch it. It's been made, it's out there, and it's like crying because it rained last week.
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